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Old Aug 23, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15   #21
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Sounds good in theory but extremely bad in practical sense. You're a sitting duck spamming these spells while a ganker outdamage your life-stealer. Oh, Spiteful Spirit and Visions of Regret are extremely popular in AB, which means you will be utterly shutdown or killed by one of these hexes.
Wrong, SS's key is in its AoE damage, casted on a lone sin/war, it's a waste of time. But VoR is different, it deals(for my build) 85 damage everything they cast a skill, mind you, a SKILL. So it deals 85 damage no matter what skill they use and I usually combine that with [Empathy]. I don't know this for sure but 85% of the assassins that tried to spike/gank my mesmer in AB doesn't care what hexes you put on them, so they just keep on spiking.
Then the the damage VoR+Empathy deals is as follows:

[Visions of regret]: 85 dmg(per skill)
[Empathy]: 52 dmg(per attack)

assuming an assassin have 600 health(most have around 500ish) and has a 5 attacking chain(5 skills that make up the chain) then:

137 damage per chain X 5 = 685 damage total.

I'm not gonna go into details here but with my build I can keep up once with a sin spike/gank so usually it comes down to my having ~100 hp and the sin dead(or backed away). Close, but I'm still the winner.
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Old Aug 23, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51   #22
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Wrong. Killing things with Blood Magic skills takes a long time. It will take you a long time to kill things in PVE. Too long.
It is possible to use blood magic skills through most of the game, but it's slow, inefficient and often risky.
Wrong. I run a blood "spike" build in AB all the time and can kill basically anything in a matter of 5-8 seconds depending on the HCT activation on my spells. Yes there are counters to this (as there are for ALL spikes), and I try to remember who those opponents are and not waste my time on them when I see them again.

And for those of you saying that it can't be a spike when only one person is doing it, I counter with this: What is the purpose of a team spike? To kill your opponent quickly. Why wouldn't killing someone on your own in 5 seconds count as a spike?
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Old Aug 23, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03   #23
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Wrong. I run a blood "spike" build in AB all the time and can kill basically anything in a matter of 5-8 seconds depending on the HCT activation on my spells.
spikeing with HCT? lolz good joke
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Old Aug 23, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18   #24
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never mind, i'm not even going to start that argument

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Old Aug 23, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21   #25
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can kill basically anything in a matter of 5-8 seconds depending on the HCT activation on my spells.
Whilst a little duoubtful on this, I'm not going to argue.
I personally find the problem with the blood spells to be less on the casting time (which isn't brilliant), but on the recharge times and irritating energy costs.
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Old Aug 23, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18   #26
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The problem with blood spike is that it can only do ONE thing, so that limits the ways it can be used but it doesn't mean it always suck.
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Old Aug 23, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21   #27
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Blood Magic is bad in most cases, but I guess Blood Bond and Vampiric Spirit could be quite fun.
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Old Aug 23, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #28
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never mind, i'm not even going to start that argument
Good save yourself the time.

Ontopic, there are better spikes out there with more utility. Explore and find them out yourself
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Old Sep 08, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32   #29
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I'd put my money on a touchie over this. But both are pretty easy to destroy in AB.
I have the same opinion
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Old Sep 08, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #30
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The touch skills aren't spells.
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Old Sep 08, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52   #31
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[blood drinker] [arcane echo] [angorodon's gaze] [blood of the aggressor] [unholy feast] [vampiric gaze] [lyssa's aura] [resurrection signet]

You will swim in energy and it is a spamming fun time (works better for a necro only because of runes)

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Old Sep 11, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34   #32
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No defence
no speed boost
Prot monks are pretty kewl.
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Old Sep 11, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58   #33
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Prot monks are pretty kewl.
You don't get a prot monk everytime you ab, they are in the endangered species area.
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Old Sep 11, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #34
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Want to know how I Monk in AB?

I powerheal everything spamming WoH and Patient on recharge while camping my bow and sneakily D-Shotting random enemy skills, usually Barrage or Healing Breeze.
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